Generative AI - Policy?
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Search this topic in the forum search: AI Generated Pix/Video
posted 3 weeks ago
I don't think there's an actual policy but it's been discussed in the forum before, and the takeaway is that the vast majority of our user community on here think it's a negative and don't like it.
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Yes, in the least, the content should be marked AI enhanced or produced.
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posted by: TightStuffYes, in the least, the content should be marked AI enhanced or produced.
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posted by: ClydeIt has made every other site into a trash heap of fake images, fake people... etc. Part of what I always loved about the kink community is our authenticity. But now it's starting to show up here too. It starts as an AI "enhancement" of a picture, just to make those shorts look more shiny. Then it quickly turns into outright body manipulation, tattoos that magically migrate all over the subject, clothing and lighting that looks almost cartoon. Then the slop machine goes into full beast mode and people just start posting completely fake nonsense images with captions like "These guys are hot" as they generate 100 of them a second. I was searching for anything about AI use here but couldn't find it. Maybe it just got buried. What's the actual rule? AI allowed here? Just block people who post it so I don't have to see it? I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before.
posted 3 weeks ago
I’ve been reporting profiles/pictures that seem to just be generative AI and/or simply reposted from the internet. This site shouldn’t be about what AI can give us or what we can find in Google search results.
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posted by: 8eight8I’ve been reporting profiles/pictures that seem to just be generative AI and/or simply reposted from the internet. This site shouldn’t be about what AI can give us or what we can find in Google search results.
posted 3 weeks ago
posted by: ClydeIt has made every other site into a trash heap of fake images, fake people... etc. Part of what I always loved about the kink community is our authenticity. But now it's starting to show up here too. It starts as an AI "enhancement" of a picture, just to make those shorts look more shiny. Then it quickly turns into outright body manipulation, tattoos that magically migrate all over the subject, clothing and lighting that looks almost cartoon. Then the slop machine goes into full beast mode and people just start posting completely fake nonsense images with captions like "These guys are hot" as they generate 100 of them a second. I was searching for anything about AI use here but couldn't find it. Maybe it just got buried. What's the actual rule? AI allowed here? Just block people who post it so I don't have to see it? I apologize in advance if this has been discussed before.
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posted 3 weeks ago
Just adding to the pile of I don't want to see any AI either, like ever, and especially not here.
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posted by: ClydeI could mention that I've been working with AI for like... 5 years. The problem with "force to tag it" is that it's super expensive to do that. Detection services basically treat each evaluation as a generation, it's mostly the same math as a generation model. So our admin would end up payin like 50 cents a post just to detect and tag it, and I love this site but that's asking a lot. Glad so many people feel the same way. I come here to see people. Real people. Not cartoons dreamt up by a machine. There are literally 9000 sites for that already and so precious few sites of real people, that I get defensive of my community when it starts to get polluted. ;) Not gonna kink shame. AI is fun, it can make some fun stuff. Fantasy pics and stories are a snap. Just... keep it where it belongs? That shouldn't be a controversial opinion.
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posted by: ClydeI could mention that I've been working with AI for like... 5 years. The problem with "force to tag it" is that it's super expensive to do that. Detection services basically treat each evaluation as a generation, its mostly the same math as a generation model. So our admin would end up payin like 50 cents a post just to detect and tag it, and I love this site but that's asking a lot.
posted 3 weeks ago
The flood of AI images is so saddening - presenting unattainable men as the objective, rather than glorying in all the wonderful folks who are real and actually own and enjoy lycra!
posted 3 weeks ago
I think AI-generated content on Spandex Party has now grown to a point where we need to take some action. So this post got a bit lengthy, please bear with me.
Pretty much every second or third report coming through the reporting tool at the moment is related in some way to AI misuse. We don't even have an "AI content" reporting category yet, so people are reporting it under things like "off-spandex" or "fake".
GENERATIVE AI VS AI-ASSISTED EDITING
I think it's important to distinguish between generative AI and the kind of AI-assisted editing that has become part of normal photo editing.
By generative AI, I mean images where AI creates or substantially replaces the person, body, clothing, setting, etc.
That's quite different from using AI-powered tools to improve lighting, reduce noise, sharpen an image, remove something from the background, or make other relatively small corrections to a real photo.
WE'VE HAD A SIMILAR DISCUSSION BEFORE
Some time ago we had a similar discussion, but it was about nudity and pictures that don't show any spandex.
The consensus was basically: if someone has a profile with lots of spandex pictures and throws in the occasional non-spandex picture, that's okay.
But if a profile consists almost entirely of non-spandex pictures and close-ups of someone's cock or ass, then that's not really what Spandex Party is for.
WHY I THINK AI IS DIFFERENT
With generative AI, though, I don't think we can apply quite the same approach.
A generated image ultimately isn't a picture of the profile owner.
You could argue that someone is uploading a representation of their ultimate fantasy, or something they would like to experience. But that very quickly becomes difficult for us to define, check and moderate consistently.
For that reason, I would personally prefer us NOT to allow fully or substantially AI-generated profile pictures at all.
I share the same view as others here: profile pictures should fundamentally be about the profile owner.
WHAT COULD WE DO?
A few practical things come to mind:
- Add a clear "DO NOT UPLOAD AI-GENERATED CONTENT" explanation to the upload modal.
- Potentially add a checkbox or declaration around AI use when uploading a picture.
- Add "AI-generated content" as a reason in the reporting feature.
THE GREY AREA: AI ENHANCEMENTS
I think this is the difficult part.
I'm sure quite a few people already use tools that include AI to slightly improve their photos. Personally, I think minor fixes and enhancements should remain okay.
I don't think we want to start investigating whether somebody used an AI denoiser, removed something from the background, improved the lighting, sharpened a picture, or made another small correction.
Technically, external tools may sometimes be able to detect AI manipulation, but the last thing I want is for this to turn into an "AI witch hunt" with endless reports and arguments over whether a perfectly normal-looking photo was edited by AI.
WHERE I WOULD DRAW THE LINE
For me, the useful distinction would be:
- AI-assisted editing of a genuine photo of yourself: okay (but maybe with a AI badge for labelling)
- AI-generated or substantially AI-created images presented as profile pictures: not okay.
What do you say? what would you change or add?
To me this feels like a rule we could explain relatively clearly and, more importantly, moderate reasonably consistently.
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posted 3 weeks ago
Sounds like a good plan to start with and keep an eye on how it develops. You can always impose stricter rules if proven necessary
posted 3 weeks ago
I agree. Ban generative AI if it has become that much volume. Allow background cleanup. But it’s one thing to state the rules. I’m not sure of the logistics of how to police them.
posted 2 weeks ago
I'm very clear about that. I don't want to see AI, dicks and assholes. If you are provided with a gray area it is like a flexible term. It's always just exploited.